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Old 10-28-2015, 10:31 AM
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My dad recently got a Springfield Range Officer in .45. I shot it with him last week and I brought my 92FS. He's been on a bit of a slump so he's going to see an eye doctor on Saturday; he went from A class skeet to D.

It kind of amazed me though how much better I shoot a 1911 than my 92. No long trigger pull for the 1st shot and I'm not really noticing a huge recoil difference.

So this means I'm going to get a SAO pistol for myself around Christmas. Going to try out a Browning Hi Power this weekend too

What do you all think? 1911 or BHP? If I go 1911, I'd get a CZ, change the sights to red dots (as in the sights are 3 red dots), lighten the trigger and change out the grips. The BHP would be a new MkIII.
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Old 10-31-2015, 01:13 PM
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My dad recently got a Springfield Range Officer in .45. I shot it with him last week and I brought my 92FS. He's been on a bit of a slump so he's going to see an eye doctor on Saturday; he went from A class skeet to D.

It kind of amazed me though how much better I shoot a 1911 than my 92. No long trigger pull for the 1st shot and I'm not really noticing a huge recoil difference.

So this means I'm going to get a SAO pistol for myself around Christmas. Going to try out a Browning Hi Power this weekend too

What do you all think? 1911 or BHP? If I go 1911, I'd get a CZ, change the sights to red dots (as in the sights are 3 red dots), lighten the trigger and change out the grips. The BHP would be a new MkIII.
I have both, love them both. To me & many others it's just a matter of firepower versus stopping power.
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Old 11-02-2015, 09:36 AM
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Well, I have both, and both are superlative.
BHP offers superb ergonomics, shootability, simple manual of arms and 80 years of proven performance.
1911 offers pretty much the same, with 104 years of proven performance.
Not trying to be a wiseass but "BOTH" is the best answer to your question, IMHO.
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Old 11-02-2015, 02:59 PM
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Well, I have both, and both are superlative.
BHP offers superb ergonomics, shootability, simple manual of arms and 80 years of proven performance.
1911 offers pretty much the same, with 104 years of proven performance.
Not trying to be a wiseass but "BOTH" is the best answer to your question, IMHO.
Go with the HP. It was created to fix the screw ups with the 1911. And the fact that a 9mm is older, that means it's better then a 45...
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Old 11-02-2015, 07:12 PM
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Well, I have both, and both are superlative.
BHP offers superb ergonomics, shootability, simple manual of arms and 80 years of proven performance.
1911 offers pretty much the same, with 104 years of proven performance.
Not trying to be a wiseass but "BOTH" is the best answer to your question, IMHO.
I'm going to agree with you.

I shot a BHP on Friday and I was getting some pretty sweet groups. All touching or less than 1" groups at 10 yards. Trigger was pretty good, felt great in the hand.

I would like a 1911 though, just to have. But the BHP will come first.
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Old 11-03-2015, 05:16 AM
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Go with the HP. 9mm is older, that means it's better then a 45...
Browning himself designed both. In his case at the time the .45 auto was 20 plus years "older" than 9mm. On one caliber being "better" than the other, that has been argued for generations. When the US Army switched from .45 auto 1911's to 9mm Beretta's in the 80's, it did so for essentially 2 reasons:
(1) 9mm ammo is cheaper & more readily available then .45 auto in Europe and certain third world cesspools countries where the US has boots on the ground.
(2) If it comes down to just a handgun, capacity. The "spray & prey" firepower mentality of 15 + 1 vs. 7 + 1.

Of course, the Army typically screwed up because shortly after their conversion from .45 to 9mm, Para Ordnance Canada introduced the double stack hi-cap .45 P-Series.
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Para 1911: .45 acp: P-12 ('94) P-14 ('94) P-14S ('96)
Colt: .380 Mustang ('95)
Stoeger: 12 ga. Coach Gun ('13)
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Old 11-12-2015, 10:57 PM
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Both are great guns. The BHP is much easier to field strip.
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Old 11-13-2015, 08:59 AM
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Browning himself designed both. In his case at the time the .45 auto was 20 plus years "older" than 9mm. On one caliber being "better" than the other, that has been argued for generations. When the US Army switched from .45 auto 1911's to 9mm Beretta's in the 80's, it did so for essentially 2 reasons:
(1) 9mm ammo is cheaper & more readily available then .45 auto in Europe and certain third world cesspools countries where the US has boots on the ground.
(2) If it comes down to just a handgun, capacity. The "spray & prey" firepower mentality of 15 + 1 vs. 7 + 1.

Of course, the Army typically screwed up because shortly after their conversion from .45 to 9mm, Para Ordnance Canada introduced the double stack hi-cap .45 P-Series.
Primary reason was us ( the USA) wanting new military bases in Italy... in order to grease the wheels, contract was given to an Italian company. We had already decided to align with NATO specs at that point in time
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I am not a real 1911 guy, so you know which way I would go. The HP is an excellent gun, that if it were not for the price tag, I would have one in my collection. (Wife gets all crappy when the price of a handgun goes above about 650)
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I too have had my eye out for a HP project gun that I can rehab. Alas, there seem to be none. The HP is held in high esteem and they just don't turn up used in any condition at less than a dear price.

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